Curse

Geckoo · Jan 30, 2007, 04:45 PM // 16:45

from my point of view the reward in anguish are tormented weapons an whispers chests, also the greens you can obtain there... not a rit hero. The only problem for me is that you require gemstones, simply the mission shouldn't need gems in order to do it, is the only change it may be done.

Lonesamurai · Jan 30, 2007, 04:46 PM // 16:46

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Originally Posted by Sir Mad

Do you realize if Anet make the aquisition of Razah as easy as Olias for example, people will complain there is no reward for completeing the quests in Torment? And if Anet introduces another rit hero, they will complain that the reward for slaying things in Torment is worthless since they already have a rit hero?

Or, and this is just off the top of my head, they could make Razah easier to get and add that mythical multi profession hero that was rumoured before, that way he would actually be worth the fight

Sir Mad · Jan 30, 2007, 04:55 PM // 16:55

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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

Or, and this is just off the top of my head, they could make Razah easier to get and add that mythical multi profession hero that was rumoured before, that way he would actually be worth the fight

Yes, I think everybody would like to have a multi-profession hero, but the problem is making one is not as easy as just changing one variable. How long and how much effort who it take? I have no idea. But I'm still sure it's anything but simple.

And even if they replace Razah by this multi-profession hero and give us a rit hero as a reward for a simple quest in Cantha, how long before a thread called "Please, make the aquisition of <insert the name of the multi-profession hero here> resonable" is posted? A few days, probably...

Lonesamurai · Jan 30, 2007, 05:11 PM // 17:11

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Originally Posted by Sir Mad

Yes, I think everybody would like to have a multi-profession hero, but the problem is making one is not as easy as just changing one variable. How long and how much effort who it take? I have no idea. But I'm still sure it's anything but simple.

Fairly simple as the mechanic for multi primary profession characters are there... Some enemies can change their primary profession at will

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Originally Posted by Sir Mad

And even if they replace Razah by this multi-profession hero and give us a rit hero as a reward for a simple quest in Cantha, how long before a thread called "Please, make the aquisition of <insert the name of the multi-profession hero here> resonable" is posted? A few days, probably...

Maybe so, but at least we'd all have a hero for each primary and besides that, theres no reason Razah couldn't still be in the Realm of Torment still

Neriandal Freit · Jan 30, 2007, 05:30 PM // 17:30

Although I've said my leave from this thread many pages back, I have to ask three questions of everyone who wants to see Razah, or another character who was said in the manual to be a multi-professional one this.

Do you really want to see Jane, Barb, Sally and You out in The Realm of Torment all with the same looking character simply because you can change the main profession? And, if you answer yes, have you posted in the Hair Style thread? Again, if yes, why are you wanting to see a character EVERYONE and their mom has? I don't want that, I like one person having Zhed and another having Acolyte as the Elementalist of the party.

Do any of you who argue "Make an easy Ritualist" understand that ANET is attempting to promote, and not forcing us to buy the game Factions? The game many of us have seen loose many players? Let's face it, the game had a bunch of quests in a small area, but that game was very detailed and was worth the play. Plus, we've got a Canthian New Year coming up. Do you want your neighbor friend down the road who just has Prophecies and Nightfall to miss out on that?

Do any of you also understand that ANET must do such things from time to time in order to keep the interest of games like Faction alive? Because the more games that sell, the more money they make. The more money they make, the better they make the game. The better they make the game, the happier their consumer is. The happier we are, the happier they are because we are buying their games.

If you understand one of these things I've just listed, then your with the majority of people here! Congratulations!!! The majority of us wish to see things remain as they are for the better of the game and of the players, much for the reasons I've listed above.

If you don't understand anything I've just posted, you are but in the minority who is hollering as best you can. Mind you, you minority folk have awesome vocal cords, because one of you keep bumping this thread when ALL of us know that everything that has had to have been said has been said but insist on keeping this "Make it easy for me because I like easy games!" thread open.

Please, get over your selves. It isn't going to change because of the things I've listed and what other players (like Sir Mad for a great example) have posted here. If you don't like Guild Wars, go play World of Warcraft. I hear they just came out with a new expansion that might be easy with cheat codes in it that has your names all over it.

Omega X · Jan 30, 2007, 05:32 PM // 17:32

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Originally Posted by Sir Mad

Do you realize if Anet make the aquisition of Razah as easy as Olias for example, people will complain there is no reward for completeing the quests in Torment? And if Anet introduces another rit hero, they will complain that the reward for slaying things in Torment is worthless since they already have a rit hero?

IF Razah is the only real reward for going into the DoA then the area is just a waste of time.

Sofonisba · Jan 30, 2007, 07:18 PM // 19:18

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Originally Posted by Neriandal Freit

Do any of you also understand that ANET must do such things from time to time in order to keep the interest of games like Faction alive?

Do you think this happens? I mean, how many people who do not have Factions decide to sell the gems for big in-game money, versus shelling out real-life money for another game, just so they can maximize their ritualist hero's use? I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, I'm truly curious if it may have the opposite effect than ANet might intend.

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"Make it easy for me because I like easy games!"

Maybe that's what it sounds like, but no one is calling for a DoA nerf; just saying /signed to a Rit (not Razah, I don't care what his name or armor looks like) hero you don't have to dedicate half your life to getting. Not yelling and screaming... just, /signed.

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go play World of Warcraft. I hear they just came out with a new expansion that might be easy with cheat codes in it that has your names all over it.

*rolleyes*

There you go with your hyperbole again. There is no slippery slope here; the precedent for the other hero types' acquisition has been set. People are asking for follow-through of said precedent.

Kid Divinity · Jan 30, 2007, 07:32 PM // 19:32

The price for all the gems is already down to 100k. After a while, it will most likely come down further. Everyone will have him in time for Chapter 4.

Just hang in there!

Lonesamurai · Jan 30, 2007, 07:43 PM // 19:43

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Originally Posted by Kid Divinity

The price for all the gems is already down to 100k. After a while, it will most likely come down further. Everyone will have him in time for Chapter 4.

Just hang in there!

you do know that you still need to run around killing things to get him... Its more than just getting the Gems

And trust me, the gems are easy to get in comparison to freeing Razah

VitisVinifera · Jan 30, 2007, 07:49 PM // 19:49

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Originally Posted by Omega X

IF Razah is the only real reward for going into the DoA then the area is just a waste of time.

hah good point.

1. DoA is a waste of time
2. Razah should be reasonable to obtain

Kid Divinity · Jan 30, 2007, 08:34 PM // 20:34

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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

you do know that you still need to run around killing things to get him... Its more than just getting the Gems

And trust me, the gems are easy to get in comparison to freeing Razah

I know what it takes. I unlocked him on 2 toons already. The quest to free him consisted of killing the same beasts that are all over the Realm of Torment. They aren't Anur's or Stygians or anything special.

It took about 15 minutes.

Shady79 · Jan 31, 2007, 12:33 PM // 12:33

just give us another ritu hero by doing a simple quest like the olias one... without visiting an highend area.

NeHoMaR · Jan 31, 2007, 04:38 PM // 16:38

Multi-Profession hero is actually VERY easy to implement: When you get Razah you will have 10 more heroes: Razah Warrior, Razah Monk, ... and NO, again NOOO, this DOESN'T unbalance game.

Edit: If you don't have Factions, you don't get Razah Assassin and Razah Ritualist, until you buy that campaign. Also, if you don't have Prophecies (for example) you don't get Razah Elem. and Razah Monk, that way this could even works like marketing thing for sell another campaigns.

Dougal Kronik · Feb 06, 2007, 09:15 AM // 09:15

Definitely need this to be changed.

darkangel921 · Feb 07, 2007, 10:57 AM // 10:57

Completing the DOA quests to get Razah doesnt indicate that you are more skilled than anyone else,,, any idiot can spam Searing Flames and LB gaze, so enough with the stupid elitist attitude about DOA, all it proves is that you have enough time to do all of that crap,,, more time than is socially acceptable.

tyche7 · Feb 07, 2007, 11:43 PM // 23:43

I have to say I, for one, 100% agree! Yes DOA should be very hard - it's an elite area. However, obtaining a hero like Razah should NOT be that hard. All the other heroes in the game were reasonable to get - Razah is just a joke. Very few people have the patience, the time, the network of really good players and the skill to really play it all the way through and get him. And Razah isn't even able to change his primary as originally thought. He's simply a Rt. Rediculous if you ask me.

cellardweller · Feb 08, 2007, 04:13 AM // 04:13

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Originally Posted by Kid Divinity

The price for all the gems is already down to 100k. After a while, it will most likely come down further. Everyone will have him in time for Chapter 4.

Just hang in there!

The oft quoted statistic says that most players don't have more than 20k gold, and you think they'll be to pay over 1million for the hero?

creelie · Feb 08, 2007, 06:05 AM // 06:05

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Originally Posted by cellardweller

The oft quoted statistic says that most players don't have more than 20k gold, and you think they'll be to pay over 1million for the hero?

Um... 100k is one-tenth of 1 million. And 100k is not that difficult to get - playing through Factions twice is all it took for me.

warpedheat101 · Feb 08, 2007, 07:04 AM // 07:04

/signed for having an alternate rit hero

cellardweller · Feb 08, 2007, 07:44 AM // 07:44

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Originally Posted by creelie

Um... 100k is one-tenth of 1 million. And 100k is not that difficult to get - playing through Factions twice is all it took for me.

There are 10 primary classes, all requiring their own set of gems. 10x100k= 1Mill.